Bukkit

Hello,

The update site is quite encouraging, thanks! Nevertheless, the files rss feed does no longer seem to exist, this has broken a lot of plugin update checkers.

We were under the impression everyone was using the API.

The problem is that there were quite a few videos on Youtube explaining how to build an update checker using the rss feed, so many people just followed that way of doing things.

My signature does not appear :(

(And by the way, please remove deleted projects from your profile.)

Where are you expecting the signature to show up? I just want to make sure I'm looking in the right spot :]

And I mentioned in another comment, the projects listing is being looked at. It's something we've noted as needing a re-visit. No ETA on changes, but we're aware!

Okay thanks.

Where are I am excepting my signature to show up ? Under my messages :p

Ah, yea I'm not sure it's intended to show up here in the comments for posts.

So yeah, where is it supposed to show up ?

This is shit. Freakin Curse doesn't know how to relate to us at all.

My profile now says all my projects, even rejected ones... You made the site quality worse.
We have been loyal members of the community for a long time and after the original team left everything has just been going downhill.

Hey TekkitCommando,

I get it. I've seen my own communities go through ups and downs, left and rights. They didn't always come out on top, and I can't promise that we'll be able to make the changes necessary to do well in your eyes. But what I can promise is that we want this to succeed and meet your expectations as much as anyone.

I'm honestly just asking for a little time - and I'm promising that we're working on better communication so you guys can know more about what's going on behind the scenes.

In regards to the projects, we're aware that this is a little strange. It's something we've discussed and are currently working on a solution. I don't have any ETA on that but I wanted to let you know it's on the to-do list.

MrFlameGoat,

The new site is gorgeous, but there are 2 things I wanted to bring up:

The plugin posting rules for BukkitDev are far too difficult to find. The actual rule list is here, but to find it I often find myself having to Google for it. New developers often post plugins that accidentally violate these rules purely because they were never presented to them. 

Could you make an obvious link to the rules within the project creation prompt and/or make them easier to find from this site?

Also, with the shutdown of Bukget due to the BukkitDev update, this rule now presents a problem. 

Automatic Update checking & downloading

If you wish for your plugin to automatically check for updates and/or download JAR file updates, it must solely be communicating with and downloading from BukkitDev as defined below. Downloading from your Dropbox, CI, or webserver is not allowed as we cannot control what you put in it. You may not query an external website for any part of your update checking process regardless of the output of such a website (even if it currently only returns BukkitDev URLs).

To get the newest version of my plugins (not a download, simply the version number and other version information that could be found on the BukkitDev page), I would have to set up a static site with update information on them that is not associated with BukkitDev as Bukget was. Is there something Curse can do about this?  (I remembered that the Curseforge API has a lot of this, but it doesn't give as much information as Bukget did)

Thanks!

Firstly, thanks! I mean, I take zero credit for the cleanliness of the site, but the team has done a lot of good work trying to get all the old legacy stuff cleaned up and put in here.

Next - I'll make sure we get the documentation in order and visible ASAP.

We're all ears about the API. We want feedback about what's absolutely required, what's needed, and what's wanted. I make zero promises, but at least knowing what's lacking and keeping that communication open, we can determine what we need to and can do better. So feel free to PM me any ideas or suggestions! Use scenarios are super helpful.

Hey

First of it's normally good to see changes.

However this update makes no sense, it seems to been done with haste rather than talking with the community and added new features over time.

1) Where is all of my messages?

2) The plugin list now defaults to sorting by popularity and not last updated, why? also needs to be faster way to get around to things.

3) Plugins, subforums and such

I can't see any wiki, old bug report etc. etc. and on top of that for each new file there is now added I need to click more times to get the needed information.

Right now we need to go under whatever plugin, then Recent Files before we can see the Changelog rather than seing what is updated/changed or other straight away.

Migrating to the new site was an absolute must. Change can be painful, but sometimes you just have to rip the bandaid off. No data has been lost, this wasn't rushed, and I can assure you we've been listening and watching the community for a long time. However, the things the community want from us could never have been implemented on the old platform. So give it a little time! I promise we're listening.

To answer a few concerns:

1. We're currently working on the messages. There's a few more things for us to get done before we move those over.

2. As for how we sort plugins, categorize, list, etc - this is more in line with how we do it on the Minecraft site and it's worked incredibly well there. That being said, I'm more than happy to take the criticism in case there's more we can do.

3. As for subforums - we're working on it. There's a lot that needs to be done first before this can happen, but nothing has been lost.

I've noted the concern about change log navigation as well, although I don't know if that's something we're looking at currently.

Phew! That was a lot - but I want you guys to know we're working on making everything smooth.

Love this update

I hate how the plugin list now defaults to sorting by popularity and not last updated.

I have to disagree. It should default to popular because that's what people will be looking for, however I agree in that it should be easier to find new/newly updated projects. (Granted, the new system finally ends spam updates for downloads)

The reason why it should not be defaulted at popularity is because it currently is set up reduced the amount of people seeing new plugins. How many server owners will actively go to newest first? Unless they active choose to go there, new plugins will not be downloaded, meaning they wont gain as much popularity as they did with the old format (meaning they won't be downloaded, and this goes on and on...)

However, you are right. Popular plugins are what people would be looking for. But new projects could never compete with the giants such as Worldedit or any of the other projects on the first 100+ pages the popular listing. The best choice, for both devs and the majority downloading plugins, would be for the default to be listed for popularity for the day/week/month. Although there will still be traffic moving towards the giants, smaller and newer plugins can still reach the first page and get the downloads needed to keep the project active.

[Edit] If you really want to see how this change affects projects, go to last-updated and see all the projects that have been updated within the past 24 hours. Most of them have less than 10 downloads (some even having 0 downloads). There use to be a lot more downloads, even on weekdays.

I really love the ability to list a plugin as more than 3 versions. This is something that was needed for a long time. However, it is a a hassle to tick every box for all my plugins (since they all work on all versions of bukkit). Is there a way you can add a button to tick every box or list that a plugin will work on all versions of bukkit?

I don't think there's anything like this at the moment, but I'll be sure to bring this back to the team. I do agree that it could be a little more... concise. Thanks for the feedback!